Episode 45 | 11.10.2024

Unlocking Social Value: Bridging Sustainability and Equity

In this episode, sustainability expert Claudia Dommett-Nöhren, currently the Group Head of ESG at nGAGE Talent, shares insights on integrating social equity into the green economy. She discusses practical strategies for embedding sustainability into business operations, closing the green skills gap, and fostering a just transition.

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As the world grapples with the twin challenges of climate change and social inequality, the call for a more integrated approach to sustainability has never been louder. For leaders like Claudia Dommett-Nöhren, currently Head of ESG at nGAGE Talent, the focus isn’t just on reducing carbon footprints, but also on driving social value and equity across industries. With over 15 years of experience in sustainability, Claudia has played a key role in shaping sustainability strategies that not only address ecological concerns but also ensure that social justice is part of the equation.

During a recent episode of the podcast, Claudia shared her insights on navigating the evolving landscape of sustainability, highlighting the need to bridge the gap between environmental goals and social equity. Throughout the conversation, she delved into her career journey, the lessons she’s learned, and the ways in which businesses can embed sustainability into their core operations.

 

From Animal Rights to Holistic Sustainability

Claudia’s passion for sustainability began at an early age, initially focused on animal rights and later expanding to encompass broader environmental and social issues. “It started at a very young age… getting really into animal rights in the cosmetics industry as someone in primary school,” she explained. This passion later evolved into a more comprehensive interest in environmentalism, leading her to pursue studies in environmental management and policy.

Her career began within the rail industry, where she gained experience in environmental management before moving into more holistic roles in sustainability. She quickly realised that to make a lasting impact, it was crucial to integrate social considerations alongside environmental efforts. Reflecting on this transition, she stated,

“We have this term sustainability… but quite a lot of people, including myself at times, tend to look at environment, social, and economic factors separately rather than integrating them effectively.”

 

Embedding Sustainability into Business Operations

A key theme throughout Claudia’s career has been the importance of embedding sustainability into business processes rather than treating it as a standalone initiative. According to her, sustainability efforts should be woven into the fabric of everyday business operations to ensure they become part of the company’s culture. “You need to embed sustainability into existing business processes… If you come in with a completely new, shiny strategy, it can overwhelm people and face resistance,” she said.

Claudia’s approach often involves linking sustainability initiatives to existing business objectives, which can help companies achieve incremental improvements that ultimately drive significant change. She pointed out that integrating sustainable practices into areas such as procurement, HR and finance can gradually transform a company’s operational model, making it more resilient and efficient.

 

The Green Skills Gap and Just Transition

One of the pressing challenges that Claudia highlighted during the conversation is the growing green skills gap. As industries pivot towards more sustainable practices, the demand for professionals with expertise in green jobs and sustainability is increasing. However, there is a noticeable disconnect between the skills employers are looking for and the qualifications of many job seekers.

“There’s a skills gap that we need to bridge… I see businesses struggling to find the right candidates for sustainability roles, while there are also many people who want to enter the field but can’t land a job,” Claudia observed. To address this, she advocates for a more inclusive approach to hiring and upskilling. This includes creating opportunities for underrepresented groups to enter the sustainability sector and providing training to help current and new employees gain the necessary skills to transition into green roles.

Claudia also emphasised the need for a “just transition,” ensuring that the shift towards a low-carbon economy does not leave anyone behind. She stated, “We can’t have a just transition without being inclusive… Different people bring different strengths, and by including everyone, we can spark new ideas and solutions.” By addressing social equity alongside environmental goals, businesses can foster a more balanced and sustainable future.

 

Overcoming Resistance and Encouraging Innovation

Throughout the discussion, Claudia acknowledged that resistance to change is one of the biggest obstacles when it comes to implementing sustainability initiatives. She highlighted that some business leaders are wary of sustainability efforts disrupting day-to-day operations, and this can hinder progress.

“There’s a fear of sustainability initiatives disrupting day to day business operations,”

she said. To overcome this, Claudia recommends starting with small changes and demonstrating their benefits before scaling up efforts.

Moreover, Claudia believes that fostering a culture of innovation and embracing failure are critical for driving sustainability forward. “We need more courage to fail,” she explained. “Innovation is essential, and businesses must be willing to trial new ideas, even if they don’t always succeed.” This mindset can help companies explore new avenues for reducing their environmental impact and improving social outcomes.

 

Integrating Social Value with Environmental Goals

A significant part of Claudia’s work has involved integrating social value into sustainability strategies. For instance, during her time in the rail industry, she developed social value strategies & frameworks that considered issues such as modern slavery risks, community engagement, inclusivity as well as maximising the wider social impact of rail. She reflected, “The rail industry, being a social good, has a duty to maximise its benefits to society.”

Claudia’s approach to social value extends beyond compliance and reporting. She views it as a crucial element of sustainable business practice that can drive meaningful change when implemented thoughtfully. For businesses to genuinely integrate social value, they need to move beyond tick-box exercises and embrace strategies that consider the long-term social and environmental implications of their actions.

 

The Role of Compliance in Sustainability Efforts

During the conversation, Claudia acknowledged the growing role of compliance and reporting in sustainability. While she recognises its necessity, she expressed concern that an excessive focus on compliance can detract from the time and resources available for driving actual change.

“I spend a significant amount of time on reporting… which means less time dedicated to innovative projects,”

she noted.

Claudia argues that while compliance frameworks are essential for ensuring accountability, they should not overshadow the need for action. She suggests that companies balance compliance with proactive measures that address both environmental risks and social considerations, thereby creating a more comprehensive sustainability strategy.

 

Looking Ahead: The Future of Sustainable Business

Reflecting on the state of sustainability in business today, Claudia expressed a mix of optimism and urgency. She acknowledged that there has been significant progress in raising awareness and integrating sustainability into corporate agendas, but believes that the pace of change is still too slow. “We have many of the tools we need… but we’re not implementing them fast enough,” she remarked.

Claudia’s vision for the future involves businesses recognising that sustainability is not just an add-on or a compliance requirement, but a fundamental aspect of long-term success. “Companies need to wake up to the fact that preserving environmental resources is essential for their survival… You can’t operate on a dead planet,” she asserted. Her call to action is for businesses to embed sustainability into their DNA and view it as a driver of innovation and resilience.

 

Conclusion

Claudia’s insights serve as a powerful reminder that the journey towards a sustainable future requires a holistic approach that integrates environmental goals with social equity. By embedding sustainability into business operations, addressing the green skills gap, and fostering a culture of innovation, companies can drive meaningful change and contribute to a just transition. As Claudia puts it, “Sustainability makes good business sense… It’s about creating efficient practices that ensure long-term viability.”

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