When Construction Hits Its Social Value Targets and Misses the Point

Episode 174 | 1.9.2026

When Construction Hits Its Social Value Targets and Misses the Point

Timothy Clement on why the gamification of social value delivery is producing numbers that go up while communities ask where it all went.

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The Act Had Good Intentions. The Industry Gamed It.

A June 2026 article by Darcie Lattin, social value manager at Watson, published in PBC Today, identifies a persistent problem in construction’s approach to social value. The industry, Lattin argues, has become good at delivering social value activities and reporting against targets. The tendency, she contends, is still to focus on what is easy to measure rather than what communities actually need.

Timothy Clement read it and recognised it immediately.

“We’ve gamified the very needs that the act is supposed to address,” he said.

The Social Value Act, passed approximately fifteen years ago, was designed to ensure that private sector delivery of large public contracts produced genuine local benefit.

The mechanism was logical. The implementation drifted. What gets measured gets managed. What gets managed gets optimised. And in a procurement-driven environment, what gets optimised is the score.

Theatre, South Africa, and Eleven Years on Site

Tim studied drama at Aberystwyth. His first job was as a touring actor in a theatre-in-education company. Before university he spent time in South Africa, volunteering with a charity that published and distributed books to communities where many languages had no written form. Setting up containers in townships. Getting books to communities that did not have them.

That experience, he reflects, is closer to the world of on-the-ground social value than the eleven years he subsequently spent on construction sites. His technical career led him into embodied carbon measurement. Social value, he says, completes the loop.

He also holds a Master’s from Cambridge in Interdisciplinary Design for the Built Environment. The combination of community formation, technical training, and construction experience is what equipped him for the role he now holds as Director of Social Value and Sustainability at Morgan Sindall Construction.

 

The Numbers Go Up. Communities Ask: Where Is It?

Lattin’s article identifies the measurement problem clearly. The industry must move beyond outputs and focus on genuine outcomes: whether a person returned to work, developed a skill, or found a route into employment that previously felt out of reach. Those moments, she writes, rarely fit neatly into a spreadsheet, yet are often the most meaningful indicators of success.

Tim endorses this and complicates it usefully. The problem is not that social value is not working. Social value managers across the country are genuinely changing people’s lives.

“It’s not that it’s not working. It’s just that we’re totally overvaluing what we’re doing.”

The measurement framework creates different signals for different audiences. Converting social value to pounds and pence makes sense for a public sector business case. In the community, it produces confusion.

“You go, where? I can’t see it. Where is it? It’s crazy.”

That confusion is the gap between what the procurement system rewards and what community members actually experience.

 

Don’t Reinvent the Wheel

The most impactful social value initiatives are rarely built from scratch. Local authorities and community organisations have often spent years developing programmes that address local barriers. Bolton Council’s Restart programme, Lattin notes, already supports people returning to work after long-term unemployment. The Skills Construction Centre’s Trailblazers initiative already equips young people for construction employment.

The opportunity for developers, Lattin argues, is to strengthen what already exists rather than arrive with a parallel programme designed to generate reportable outputs.

Tim’s version of this is built into Morgan Sindall Construction’s practice. He describes ten questions applied before the organisation commits to any social value activity. Does it meet a genuine community need? Does it build on something that already exists locally?

“You can put it in a dashboard and people feel good about it. And the numbers go up. And it just creates behaviours where you chase the numbers.”

Without that discipline, the temptation is to deliver what is easy to organise and easy to report.

The Three-Year Question Nobody Is Asking

Lattin contends that social value commitments are too often tied to individual project timelines, beginning and ending alongside the construction programme. Community challenges do not follow project timelines. Barriers to employment and skills are long-standing issues that require sustained engagement.

Tim’s practical proposal addresses this directly.

He would mandate a three-year post-completion evaluation: a formal requirement to return to the community three years after a project finishes and ask what has actually changed.

Not what was delivered. What changed.

The question shifts the frame from activity to consequence. It holds the delivering organisation accountable beyond the point where the project, and its reporting cycle, has ended. Morgan Sindall Construction commits a small percent of turnover to a social impact fund.

The three-year evaluation is Tim’s proposed mechanism for ensuring that investment connects to something real rather than something reportable.

 

Compassion as a Commercial Argument

Tim’s magic wand answer is unexpected. He would introduce compassion into social value delivery. Not as sentiment. As the discipline that changes how an activity is delivered, not what it delivers.

“It’s public money. That’s how it’s designed. And that’s less of an odd thing to say in a public sector or care setting. But you don’t see it on the wall of a social value thing, generally.”

The same three activities, delivered with genuine attention to the person rather than the score, produce entirely different outcomes. The how, he suggests, is where social value either becomes meaningful or stays a game.

Lattin closes her article with a similar argument. Social value should not start with a spreadsheet. It should start with a conversation between all of the partners who understand the community best.

Whether procurement frameworks can be redesigned to reward that conversation, rather than the spreadsheet that follows it, is the question the episode leaves open.

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Trust Is Unowned. A New C-Suite Role May Not Fix That.

Episode 173 | 17.8.2026

Trust Is Unowned. A New C-Suite Role May Not Fix That.

Matt Bourn agrees with the Fortune article’s diagnosis of the trust problem. He disagrees with the prescription, and notes who wrote it.

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Edelman Makes the Case. The Interest Is Worth Noting.

A May 2026 Fortune article by Jonathan Jordan, Edelman’s U.S. Head of Corporate Reputation, argues that trust has become one of the most important assets a company holds, but sits unowned across most organisations. Responsibility, the article contends, is fragmented across communications, legal, compliance, HR, government affairs, and security, each operating with different incentives and time horizons. The result, in Jordan’s framing, is inconsistency between what companies say, what they do, and how stakeholders experience them.

The proposed solution is a Chief Trust Officer: a dedicated C-suite executive whose sole mandate is earning and protecting stakeholder confidence.

The article is persuasive and its evidence is grounded in Edelman’s own research. It is also written by a senior figure at a firm whose commercial model depends on selling trust-related services to corporations. That context does not invalidate the argument. It is worth holding in mind.

Matt Bourn read it when it first appeared in late May. His reaction was immediate, then revised on reflection.

Thirty Years Communicating for an Industry That Runs on Credibility

Matt Bourn is Director of Communications at the Advertising Association, where he leads the public narrative for the UK’s fifty billion pound advertising industry. He co-authored Trusted Advertising and Sustainable Advertising, both published by Kogan Page, and has spent thirty years working across public policy, commercial economics, and reputation management. He also works closely with the UK advertising industry’s think-tank, Credos, which tracks public trust in advertising on an ongoing basis for the Advertising Association.

His position inside this debate is specific: he has been building the evidence base for trust as a commercial driver, and he has been measuring the gap between what the industry claims and what it delivers.

 

The Distinction Jordan Gets Right: Reputation Is Not Trust

The Fortune article draws a distinction that Matt considers one of its most valuable contributions. Reputation, Jordan argues, is how a crowd feels about you at a given moment. Trust looks forward. It reflects confidence in how a company will behave tomorrow. It is the reason someone takes a chance, stays, and recommends.

Matt endorses this framing without reservation. “There’s a huge difference between being liked and being trusted.”

His own research has found that most companies, when asked whether trust matters, say yes without hesitation. When asked how they measure it, they point to brand awareness, saliency, share of voice, favourability. None of those metrics capture forward-looking confidence. The closest proxy Matt has encountered is the Net Promoter Score: the likelihood of a customer recommending the business to someone they care about.

That act of recommendation, he argues, is a genuine expression of trust rather than merely of satisfaction.

His working example is giffgaff, the mobile provider, which refers to its customers as members and derives one in five new business leads from friend and family referrals. That twenty percent figure represents trust converted directly into commercial growth.

 

Where the Article Gets the Problem Right and the Solution Wrong

The Fortune article’s structural diagnosis is, in Matt’s reading, largely accurate. The Edelman Trust Barometer research it cites suggests that sixty-one percent of people globally now hold a grievance mindset, believing institutions serve narrow interests while making their lives harder. Seven in ten people worldwide are described by Edelman researchers as having an insular trust mindset, reluctant to extend confidence to those outside their immediate circle. Among multinationals, the research identifies a thirty-one point gap in Canada, twenty-nine points in Germany, and twenty-nine in Japan between trust in domestic companies versus foreign ones.

These findings, if they hold, describe a structural problem, not a communications one. Trust is fragmenting. The localisation of confidence creates specific exposure for any organisation operating across geographies.

Where Matt diverges is on the proposed remedy. Creating a Chief Trust Officer concentrates accountability for trust in a single executive. His counter-argument is that this misunderstands the nature of the problem.

“I would push back on the reality of it. The leadership team has a collective responsibility to make sure it’s the most trusted business in its sector. And that’s across everything that it does.”

Trust that sits in a dedicated role is trust that the rest of the C-suite has been relieved of managing. The very diffusion Jordan identifies as the problem, responsibility spread across multiple functions, is not solved by adding a new function. It may simply give each existing function a reason to defer.

From the Attention Economy to the Trust Economy

The broader argument Matt draws from his own research and the Trusted Advertising book is about a structural economic shift. The attention economy, as he describes it, was built on acquiring attention at the lowest possible cost per acquisition. The trust economy, which he argues is emerging to replace it, is built on winning customers through the confidence they have in a brand relative to its competitors.

“Get trust on the plan. When you’re thinking about your next advertising campaign, trust should be in the brief. We want to be trusted for this. That’s the promise we’re making.”

The practical implication is that trust is not a function to be owned by one executive. It is a discipline to be embedded in every commercial decision. The giffgaff example is, in his framing, what the trust economy looks like in operation: a brand so trusted by its members that acquisition becomes self-sustaining.

 

Self-Regulation Over a New Title

Matt’s magic wand answer is, characteristically, structural rather than personal. He would not create a new C-suite role. He would invest in the strongest possible self-regulatory framework the advertising and communications industry can build.

“I would encourage everyone to really understand and support and invest in the strongest self-regulation that we could find. Not just the ASA, but setting the standards. Because governments have so many problems to deal with that we as an industry should be capable of delivering brilliant, responsible advertising ourselves.”

The argument connects to the Fortune article’s third claim: that staying silent on societal issues is, according to Edelman research, interpreted by fifty-three percent of consumers as concealment, and that seventy-three percent say a brand reflecting the culture around it builds more trust than one that ignores culture.

Matt’s version of that insight is more focused. An industry that self-regulates effectively demonstrates trust through its structure, not through its communications. A Chief Trust Officer cannot substitute for the credibility that comes from a sector holding itself to account.

The episode’s open question, left without resolution, is whether self-regulation is sufficient in an environment where Edelman’s own research suggests institutional trust is in structural decline.

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The CMO Trade-Off: Short-Term Credibility, Long-Term Cost

Episode 172 | 10.8.2026

The CMO Trade-Off: Short-Term Credibility, Long-Term Cost

Dr Leeya Hendricks argues that CMOs are not being pushed into short-term thinking. They are choosing it, and that choice has consequences the Lippincott data makes visible.

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What Five Hundred CMOs Said, and What They Are Actually Doing

A global study of more than five hundred marketing leaders, conducted by Lippincott in partnership with Bloomberg Media, finds a gap that is remarkable in its consistency.

CMOs believe long-term brand building is critical for sustainable growth. They are systematically deprioritising it anyway.

The mechanism is not mysterious. CMOs have earned greater organisational influence by becoming fluent in the language of the C-suite: performance metrics, quarterly targets, demonstrable commercial outcomes. The cost of that fluency is time and budget taken from brand building, customer experience investment, and cultural relevance work. Seventy-nine percent of respondents say bureaucracy getting in the way of decision-making is common. Only forty-eight percent believe marketing gets sufficient credit for its contribution to business growth. Only forty-three percent think marketing metrics are understood or valued outside the marketing function.

The data paints a function under significant pressure. Dr Leeya Hendricks’ reading of it is characteristically direct.

Three CMO Roles, a PhD, and a Book That Arrived at the Right Moment

Dr Leeya Hendricks has held CMO roles at Prytek, Delta Capita and Rimm, and senior marketing leadership roles at Oracle, IBM, Accenture and Gartner, among others. She is now Managing Director and Founder of Hark Consultants, a strategic growth advisory firm. She is a Non-Executive Director on the CIM Board, an adjunct professor at Management Center Innsbruck, and the author of The Platform Playbook, published by Palgrave Macmillan in January 2026. Her PhD, completed at Antwerp Management School and MCI Innsbruck, focused on B2B platform ecosystems and value co-creation.

She arrived at sustainability marketing through a specific angle: the question of how organisations create value that persists rather than value that reports well in the next quarter.

That question sits at the centre of the Lippincott study and at the centre of the episode.

 

Flip the Frame: This Is Not Something Being Done to CMOs

Leeya’s first intervention is a reframe. The study’s headline finding, that CMOs are being pushed into short-term thinking by boards and executive pressure, is real. Her response is to resist the passive framing.

“It shouldn’t be a case of us being forced into a space. It’s the job of the CMO to really have those strategic long-term discussions, saying this is the value that we bring.”

Her argument is that the short-term drift is partly a failure of the marketing function to make its strategic case with sufficient rigour. CMOs who allow quarterly metrics to define the terms of their engagement with the C-suite have, in effect, accepted a narrower mandate than their role requires.

The Lippincott finding that only forty-eight percent of CMOs believe marketing gets sufficient credit for its contribution is read by Leeya not as a structural injustice but as a demonstration that the case is not being made well enough.

That is a demanding position. It is also an empowering one.

 

The AI Trap Nobody Is Naming

The Lippincott study surfaces a specific and underreported problem. CMOs are racing to invest in AI tools and technology. Simultaneously, many are cutting budgets for the digital foundations AI depends on: web experience, content architecture, data quality, thought leadership. The infrastructure that determines how AI understands, surfaces, and represents a brand is being defunded to pay for the AI implementation it is supposed to support.

Leeya’s response to this is pointed. “AI is no longer the headline act. It’s becoming the operating environment.”

The question, she argues, is not whether to adopt AI. It is whether organisations understand what AI adoption actually requires. A brand that neglects its content architecture and digital foundations while investing heavily in AI tools is building on sand.

She draws an analogy to the legal sector. Firms like Harvey are not disrupting law because they have AI.

“They’ve fundamentally rethought how value is created.”

The technology is instrumental. The strategic redesign is the work. “That’s a strategy conversation, not a technology conversation.”

Whether Boards Are Ready Is the Harder Question

Leeya’s deepest challenge to the Lippincott findings is not about CMOs at all. It is about boards.

“The question isn’t simply whether marketers should be in the boardroom. It’s whether boards have the capabilities needed to lead organisations in an AI-enabled economy.”

If marketing is being squeezed into short-term thinking by board-level pressure for quarterly performance, and if boards lack the capability to evaluate what AI-enabled long-term strategy requires, then the problem is not a marketing problem. It is a governance problem.

The CMO trade-off described by the Lippincott study is a symptom of something upstream.

Only fourteen percent of CMOs in the study say they are confident their organisation is prepared for impending challenges. That number sits alongside the eighty-three percent who describe their company’s growth trajectory as positive. The gap between those two figures is where the real risk lives.

 

Responsible Growth Is Not About Sacrifice

Leeya’s magic wand answer returns to the foundational question the episode orbits. She would change how organisations define and measure value, moving beyond quarterly performance to a model that captures long-term outcomes across customers, employees, partners, society, and shareholders.

“Responsible growth isn’t about sacrificing commercial performance. It’s about creating businesses that can sustain it.”

The Lippincott data suggests the gap between that aspiration and operational reality is widening. CMOs know what long-term value requires. The conditions in which they operate are pulling in the opposite direction. Whether those conditions change, or whether marketing leaders find ways to change the terms of the conversation, is the question the episode leaves intact.

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When Sustainability Leaders Stop Talking About Sustainability

Episode 171 | 3.8.2026

When Sustainability Leaders Stop Talking About Sustainability

Katja Tuomola on why the most effective CSOs are gaining strategic power by operating as business executives first, and sustainability advocates never.

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The Role That Is Quietly Becoming Central

A 2025 Korn Ferry report finds that the Chief Sustainability Officer role is shifting from compliance and risk toward genuine strategic partnership. Sixty-two percent of executives surveyed plan to increase sustainability budgets. The CSO, the report argues, is becoming a connector, collaborator, and catalyst for business transformation.

Katja Tuomola reads the article with appreciation and a caveat. The research reflects large corporate reality.

“If you look at people whose titles are CSOs, you don’t typically find this in smaller companies.”

The deeper insight the Korn Ferry piece points toward but does not fully land is the one Katja has built her career around. The CSO role gains power not by championing sustainability, but by making sustainability indistinguishable from business performance.

From Applied Chemistry to Strategic Leadership

Katja Tuomola came to sustainability through chemistry and industry, not policy or campaigning. Twelve years at Kemira in research and applications work, then a move into Metsä Board and eventually VP of Sustainability Management at Metsä Group, where she led sustainability strategy for a business with approximately seven billion euros in sales. She rebuilt the function structurally, moving sustainability reporting into finance and controlling and establishing a new target programme with twenty-four ESG-linked goals.

She is now Head of Sustainability and Marketing Communications at MM Group, a fibre-based packaging company with over four billion euros in annual sales and fifteen thousand employees, reporting directly to the CEO.

The commercial background is not incidental. It is the foundation of the trust she has built with every leadership team she has worked alongside.

 

Sustainability Is an Umbrella, Not a Department

Katja’s first reaction to the Korn Ferry article captures something the report gestures at but does not quite resolve.

“Sustainability is no longer one thing. It’s not seen as sustainability only. It’s now seen as an umbrella. It touches everything.”

The umbrella framing describes what a strategically positioned CSO actually does. They do not run a sustainability programme. They provide the lens through which investment decisions, supply chain choices, and product development are evaluated. The function is integrative, not additive.

At MM Group this is institutionalised precisely. Katja is the final approver of CapEx projects exceeding two million euros before they reach the management board.

“I will check it. Has the CO₂ figure been considered? Has this been discussed with the supplier? What is the footprint of the product?”

The machines are the ones using the energy. Decisions made today determine emissions for a decade. That approval point is where the leverage is.

The Price of the Seat at the Table

The strategic influence Katja describes did not arrive because MM Group decided to prioritise sustainability. It arrived because she operates in a way that makes commercial sense.

“I am not doing this for sustainability. I am doing this for business. My number one priority is that the business does not go out, because then I will not have a job either.”

Her management team knows that when she raises an issue, it is commercially or legally grounded. That trust is the precondition for everything that follows. The sustainability outcome is real. The framing that produces it is deliberately business-first.

 

Better Decisions, Not Larger Budgets

Katja’s magic wand is elegantly practical. She would embed sustainability into every investment decision as a standard consideration. Not more money. Better decisions with the money already being spent.

“Whatever you’re investing in towards the future, it should be invested within the very tight scope of how do we have a better impact sustainability wise.”

The CapEx mechanism at MM Group is the working prototype. It does not require any department to champion sustainability. It requires every major commercial decision to answer sustainability questions before it is ratified.

Whether that model scales across organisations that have not yet given their sustainability function that structural reach is the episode’s open question. The opportunity is clear. The organisational will to realise it is not yet universal.

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The Net Zero Economy Is Growing. Accountants Are Perfectly Placed to Accelerate It.

Episode 170 | 27.7.2026

The Net Zero Economy Is Growing. Accountants Are Perfectly Placed to Accelerate It.

Harriet Hodgson-Grove on why the accounting profession has a structural opportunity to drive SME decarbonisation, and how it is beginning to act on it.

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A £105 Billion Sector That Needs the Profession to Step Up

The UK’s net zero economy generated £83.1 billion in gross value added when the ICAEW published its analysis in October 2025. By the June 2026 CBI update, that figure had risen to £105 billion. The sector supports 1.1 million full-time jobs, with growth concentrated in Scotland, the North East, West Midlands, and Yorkshire and the Humber.

The opportunity for the accounting profession inside that growth story is specific and largely unrealised. SMEs account for thirty-seven percent of UK greenhouse gas emissions. There are millions of them. Most have never started a sustainability journey. Most think their individual contribution is too small to matter. The accounting profession is the most natural entry point for changing that at scale.

And here is the useful part: accountants already hold most of the data they would need to start.

Calling It Resilience, Not Sustainability

Harriet Hodgson-Grove is Audit Partner and National Head of Sustainable Business Services at UHY Hacker Young, where she has spent almost fifteen years building expertise at the intersection of audit rigour and sustainability reporting.

She has learned that what works in practice is often not what you expect. Early attempts to frame sustainability as a moral imperative produced limited traction with clients. The reframe was deliberate.

“We’ve flipped what we’re talking about,” she said. “Call it resilience. Don’t call it sustainability.”

The point is not deception. It is that climate risk, energy cost reduction, and supply chain resilience are things business owners already care about. Embedding sustainability through those frames gets it into the room without the political freight the word sometimes carries. Harriet calls it stealth sustainability. She says it works.

 

Scope One and Two Are Already in the Accounts

The structural advantage the profession holds is straightforward. Accountants collect the financial data of their clients as a matter of course. Energy spend, motor fuel, business travel costs: these are already on the invoices. A basic spend-based analysis can produce a reasonable Scope 1 and Scope 2 emissions estimate without any additional data collection.

“To do their basic Scope 1 and Scope 2, their direct and purchased emissions, we have all of that data already,” Harriet said. “We’re collecting it to be able to do their accounts.”

The better version uses activity data: actual kilowatt hours rather than spend, which is distorted by price fluctuations. Harriet notes that AI tools can scrape invoice data to extract activity numbers quickly, making the transition from spend-based to activity-based analysis faster than it once was. But the spend-based version is good enough to start. It can be done now, for every SME client, as part of the management accounts process.

That is Harriet’s ambition at UHY Hacker Young: make Scope 1 and 2 calculation standard across management accounts. Not a bespoke sustainability service. A baseline that appears routinely alongside the financial numbers.

Building the Confidence to Have the Conversation

The main thing standing between the profession and this opportunity is confidence rather than capability.

Many accountants hesitate to initiate climate conversations with clients because the topic feels outside their established expertise.

“It’s a bit like imposter syndrome,” Harriet said. “They don’t want to launch into a conversation about climate-related risks without having the full facts.”

That hesitation is understandable. It is also, she argues, the thing most worth addressing. The internal education programme she is running at UHY Hacker Young is designed precisely for this: building enough confidence across the firm that sustainability conversations become routine client touchpoints. The goal is not a handful of specialists. It is a profession-wide shift in what an accountant considers part of the job.

SMEs, for their part, do not always know to ask. When an accountant opens the door, the response, she says, is consistently positive.

“Like, how else can you support us in this? Could you look at a carbon reduction plan?” The demand is there. The profession is learning to meet it.

 

What 2030 Could Look Like

Harriet’s five-year picture is specific and optimistic. Scope 1 and 2 embedded in management accounts as standard. Climate risk woven into audit conversations from the first client meeting. Carbon reduction plans and transition plans following naturally from baseline measurement.

“If we had all SME businesses beginning that journey now, imagine what a difference it could make by 2030.”

The net zero economy is growing despite political headwinds, not because of policy certainty. The accounting profession has an entry point into the SME decarbonisation challenge that no other professional service has. The data is there. The client relationships are there. The professional credibility is there. What is being built now is the confidence to use all three.

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