The Reporting Standard That Cannot Change the System It Measures

Episode 168 | 13.7.2026

The Reporting Standard That Cannot Change the System It Measures

Charles Cho argues that the global proliferation of sustainability reporting standards is necessary, insufficient, and possibly a distraction from the structural problem underneath.

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Twenty-Eight Jurisdictions, One Missing Name

As of April 2026, twenty-eight jurisdictions have adopted the ISSB’s sustainability disclosure standards on a voluntary or mandatory basis. A further twelve are planning to. South Korea, Japan, and the United Kingdom have all issued domestic versions. The S&P Global report tracking this progress runs to several thousand words.

It does not mention GRI once.

Charles noticed immediately. You cannot ignore what’s going on on the GRI side,” he said.

The omission is not minor. GRI, the Global Reporting Initiative, is the oldest and most established sustainability standard setter in the world, founded in 1997 and still the most widely used voluntary framework globally. Charles sits on its Global Sustainability Standards Board.

The omission tells you something about where the financial establishment’s attention is pointed. It also reveals the tension the article otherwise avoids.

Two Standards, Two Philosophies

Charles is Professor of Sustainability Accounting and the Erivan K. Haub Chair in Business and Sustainability at the Schulich School of Business, York University. He has spent more than twenty years researching social and environmental accounting and corporate reporting standards. Before academia he worked at KPMG.

His position inside this debate is specific. He is an accounting scholar who believes the accounting system has been pointed at the wrong question.

The tension between ISSB and GRI is philosophical, not technical. ISSB standards are financially oriented. They ask: how does the environment affect the company? The intended audience is investors. GRI standards ask the opposite: how does the company affect the world? The intended audience is society.

“You can see that it’s a very different type of reporting,” Charles said, “when you ask a company to report on what are you doing to address the issue that you are causing to the planet, versus what are you doing about the issues that the planet is creating on your business.”

The S&P article documents a world in which the ISSB framework is gaining significant institutional traction. It does not address what that framing choice excludes.

 

A Framework Adopted in Forty Different Ways

The headline claim is that ISSB adoption is accelerating. The detail beneath it is more complicated. South Korea declined to issue a third standard permitting additional sustainability disclosures, citing corporate burden. Japan added requirements for disaggregated Scope 3 emissions not found in the ISSB framework. The UK made its standards voluntary, with mandatory application for listed companies proposed from January 2027, and indefinite waivers on Scope 3 and non-climate reporting.

The US is frozen. The SEC’s climate disclosure rules have not gone into effect. The SEC has told a court it does not intend to defend them.

The consistency and comparability that investors called for is emerging more slowly than the headline adoption numbers suggest.

We Are So Into the Tree We Cannot See the Forest

This is the point at which Charles moves from the technical to the structural.

“We are so into the tree, we don’t see the forest.”

The sustainability accounting community debates which standards are better, which frameworks capture more, which exemptions are acceptable.

“We fight over reporting standards, which is ridiculous. We are far away from actual performance and action.”

His position is not that standards are useless. Reporting standards make companies more accountable. But accountability for what you disclose is not the same as accountability for what you do. A company that reports its emissions accurately and completely has not thereby reduced them. The system in which it operates was designed to maximise profit. Reporting on how it does that, however transparently, does not change the design.

The standards debate, conducted at high volume over many years, generates its own white noise. It allows those comfortable with the current system to point to complexity as evidence that reporting remains a work in progress. Meanwhile, production continues.

 

The Magic Wand and What It Would Actually Require

Charles’s answer is direct.

“I would change the capitalist system. I would change how the incentives are designed.”

The legal route is a globally ratified revision of fiduciary duty, moving it away from shareholder return toward broader stakeholder accountability. Some jurisdictions are moving in that direction. Europe has gone furthest on social and environmental standards, though political currents are shifting. He finds unexpected hope in Asian countries with a people-first cultural orientation, and in African countries already living with the consequences of emissions they did not produce.

“That’s the key,” he said, on whether such change would need to be globally coordinated. It would.

The ISSB is spreading. The system it measures is not changing. Whether better standards accelerate structural change, or substitute for it, is the open question the episode leaves intact.

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The Business Case for Climate Disinformation

Episode 167 | 7.7.2026

The Business Case for Climate Disinformation

Sara Rego on why the ecosystem funding climate denial is commercially rational, and what communications tools cannot change about it.

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Two Economies With the Same Interest

During the May 2026 heatwave, a familiar set of claims circulated across European platforms. Heatwaves are natural. Scientists manipulate data. The media exaggerates. A June 2026 report from the European Digital Media Observatory documents the pattern: climate disinformation spikes during extreme weather, and the narratives are recycled, not improvised.

Two overlapping economies sustain the system. The carbon economy funds misleading content to protect commercial interests. The attention economy’s algorithms reward inflammatory material because engagement generates revenue. Neither is coordinating with the other. Their incentives converge.

“It’s spreading at the speed of light,” Sara said. Accurate climate communication travels in the same environment. It is not rewarded by the same algorithm.

From PR to a PhD in What Goes Wrong

Sara built her career across public relations, international development, and corporate sustainability consulting before arriving at the structural question of why so much communications work fails. A PhD in sustainability communication at Universidade do Minho, completed in 2024, produced the CARE model: a peer-reviewed audit framework covering Content, Aim, Reporting, and Engagement.

More than five years at EY followed, advising Portuguese companies on ESG strategy, materiality, and disclosure. The consulting work confirmed what the research had found.

“There are companies doing greenwashing on purpose,” she said, “and others that are caught in the trap and do it because of their lack of knowledge.”

She is now Managing Director of BeTrue, a sustainability communications agency, and founder of Mossy, an AI-powered greenwashing detection tool launched in June 2026 and built on the CARE model.

 

A Machine Built in the Fifties

The EDMO report traces the organised suppression of climate knowledge to at least the 1960s, when fossil fuel companies had internal evidence of the impact of their products and chose not to disclose it. Sara notes the connection was identified even earlier, around 1912.

Why does the suppression continue, given that those funding it have descendants who will inherit the consequences? “Power and money. Because they think they can buy their exit out of this crisis with money.”

The modern architecture adds a layer the fossil fuel industry did not design. Russia maintains a developed climate disinformation strategy targeting the EU. State actors and commercial actors share no coordination mechanism. They share a common interest in delay and confusion.

The CARE Model and the Gap It Measures

Sara’s doctoral research at Universidade do Minho produced the CARE model: a peer-reviewed framework for auditing sustainability communication across four dimensions, Content, Aim, Reporting, and Engagement.

At BeTrue, she applies it with sustainability and communications teams to close the gap between what organisations do and what stakeholders actually understand and trust. As CSRD raises the bar on disclosure, that gap is becoming harder and more costly to ignore. The penalty for miscommunication is no longer reputational alone. It is regulatory.

“There are companies doing greenwashing on purpose,” she said, “and others that are caught in the trap and do it because of their lack of knowledge.”

The work operates at the communicator end of the information supply chain. It helps organisations say things that are accurate, proportionate, and defensible. It does not change what the algorithm amplifies. A company that communicates accurately and one that communicates misleadingly compete in the same attention environment. The incentive structure governing which content travels further has not changed.

 

The Variable Upstream of All of It

The EDMO report describes the goal of disinformation as white noise: not persuasion, but exhaustion. Enough misleading content surrounding the signal makes the signal impossible to locate.

Sara’s counter moves upstream from communication entirely. “From the past two hundred years there was a decrease in sixty percent of our connection to nature.”

People disconnected from direct ecological experience are more susceptible to narratives that deny it. Her argument for nature-based education and local community engagement is not peripheral to the disinformation question. It is, in her reading, the underlying variable.

Her magic wand is a shift in consciousness: the ability to see how much daily purchasing is manufactured by advertising rather than need.

“I would give people the ability to see the reality of the world we are living in and the way they would recognise how many of the things that we buy every day are unnecessary, useless, and how companies deceive and mislead us.”

The incentive structure making disinformation commercially rational remains intact. That is the condition in which better sustainability communication is being attempted.

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The Promises Made to Veterans That Break Down on Civvy Street

Episode 166 | 29.6.2026

The Promises Made to Veterans That Break Down on Civvy Street

Jim Holland of Carma argues that the same mechanism solving the veteran employment crisis can solve the corporate sustainability gap, if businesses stop treating both as costs.

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Legal Promises, Operational Failure

Britain makes commitments to the people it sends to serve. A 2026 report, After Service: The Hidden Costs of Britain’s Military on its Veterans, documents what happens next. The legal promises exist. At the moment people leave the forces, they break down.

Ten percent of service leavers struggle to find employment in year one. A further fifteen percent need what Jim Holland calls “a hand up, not a hand out” in the first two years.

The support architecture that exists on paper does not reliably materialise in practice. The transition point is where the system fails. Jim knows this because he lived it.

Barnsley, a Town Centre Pub, and Three Missing Things

Jim Holland served thirteen years as a Weapons Engineering Artificer in the Royal Navy. He left at thirty. He went back to Barnsley, where male unemployment was high and the economy had not moved much since the late eighties. He bought a town centre pub.

“Potentially not the best decision I ever made as a thirty-year-old single man,” he said. “It was certainly a lesson in economics.”

What he did not understand at the time was the nature of what he had lost. “I hadn’t realised that I was missing three things: my forces family, my purpose and my identity.”

He eventually got a hand up into Vodafone from a manager named Michael O’Connor, a moment he describes as a genuine inflection point. A corporate career followed in telecoms, aviation, and finance. He lost his position at Manchester Airport Group during the pandemic. He used the time to build something that addressed the problem he had lived through.

 

The Mechanism: More Trees, More Veterans

Carma, short for Carbon Karma, pairs corporate climate action with veteran employment. The logic was handed to Jim by Andy Steele, a former Royal Navy colleague who had built the Green Task Force in Hull: an organisation providing employment pathways to veterans and service leavers through nature-based work.

The mechanism is clean. “The more trees we get to plant, the more veterans and service leavers we can help back into employment.”

Tree planting creates jobs. Veterans do the planting. They receive vocational qualifications in horticulture as a minimum. Those with PTSD receive nature-based therapy. Employers are then engaged to bring them into wider employment.

For the corporate client, the value proposition stacks three ways.

“When you plant a tree, three wonderful things happen. First of all, you create jobs. Secondly, you get net biodiversity gain. And finally, a tree breathes in CO₂ and breathes out oxygen.”

The model currently serves clients including Leonardo, Leidos, and GoCardless.

 

Why Hiring Managers Misread Veterans

The report’s findings about broken support systems extend into the employment market. Jim’s reading of why veterans are underemployed is precise. It is not about trauma, though the media noise around that is significant. It is about misreading.

Veterans leaving service are highly adaptable, resilient, and structured. Hiring managers, Jim suggests, sometimes perceive that structure as a threat. The concern is not that a veteran cannot do the job. It is that they might do it too well.

“When you perceive someone as a threat, the loyalty that you will command off that person is almost immediate.”

Veterans, he argues, want to be led. They want structure and purpose. An organisation that provides those things will get extraordinary returns.

Climate Action as a Price We Have Never Paid

Jim’s magic wand is a reframing. He would remove the word cost from how businesses think about climate action and social value.

“People see climate action and social value as a cost in business. On a personal level, I see it as a price that we’ve never had to pay before.”

The argument that follows is commercial rather than moral. Legislation is coming. Governments do not have the funds to solve the problem themselves. They will eventually require businesses to act. The companies moving now are ahead of that curve.

“Companies that do it now are stealing the march. They’re being pioneers. They’re being thought leaders in this space, not reacting to legislation.”

The businesses that wait will face compliance costs, reputational lag, and a workforce and customer base that has already moved on.

 

What the System Has Not Solved, the Market Is Being Asked To

The deeper tension in the episode is structural. Britain’s veteran support system carries legal obligations it does not consistently meet. Carma is a market-based attempt to address what that system leaves behind. It works by attaching veteran employment outcomes to corporate ESG spending, making the intervention fundable through budgets that already exist.

Whether a commercial model can durably substitute for a state obligation is a question the episode does not resolve. Jim’s answer is pragmatic: the state is not doing it, the money for it sits in corporate sustainability budgets, and the outcomes are real.

“Never before has it been so important to bake into your business practices doing good, helping people, and helping the environment. People make the distinction of the human race and nature. We’re all one.”

The model is growing. The gap it is filling is not.

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The Visibility Problem in Hybrid Work

Episode 165 | 22.6.2026

The Visibility Problem in Hybrid Work

After building a global workforce, Christopher Carter argues that remote work expands access to talent while making influence, mentorship and advancement harder to see.

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For years, the debate around remote work has centred on productivity.

Can people work effectively from home? Does flexibility improve performance? Should companies bring employees back to the office?

Christopher Carter believes those questions overlook something more important.

The chairman and CEO of Approyo built a business that operates across multiple countries and time zones. The model gives him access to talent regardless of geography and allows customers to be supported around the clock. Yet despite embracing hybrid work, Christopher remains convinced that something important is lost when people stop sharing physical space.

The issue is not efficiency. It is visibility.

Building beyond geography

Christopher has spent much of his career around enterprise technology, SAP systems and cloud infrastructure. Today, much of his attention is focused on artificial intelligence, data security and helping organisations understand where AI creates genuine business value.

Like many businesses, Approyo reassessed its operating model during the pandemic.

Before COVID-19, recruitment was largely tied to office locations. Afterwards, the company realised it could recruit globally.

“We literally sat down in a room and we said, well, now we have the opportunity to get the biggest, best and brightest people,” Christopher explained.

The benefits were immediate.

The company expanded internationally, reduced dependence on office space and developed what Christopher describes as a “follow the sun mentality” for customer support.

Yet the same shift exposed a different challenge.

 

What gets lost when people disappear

Christopher agrees with many of the concerns raised by organisations bringing employees back into offices.

He believes physical workplaces create opportunities for interaction that are difficult to replicate online.

“I like to see people around the coffee pot having conversations and having discussions,” he said.

Those conversations matter because careers often develop through informal exposure rather than formal reporting structures.

A junior employee who solves a problem, volunteers for a project or shares an idea in person becomes visible in a way that cannot always be captured through scheduled video calls.

For Christopher, the office remains a place where relationships form and reputations develop.

“When you’re having a conversation like you and I are doing here, that’s one thing. But when you and I are sitting face-to-face in an office or a conference room or we’re brainstorming, things move at a different pace.”

The challenge is particularly relevant for younger professionals.

Hybrid work offers flexibility, but flexibility does not automatically create influence.

The people who progress are often the people who build relationships across an organisation.

Leadership becomes more deliberate

Christopher does not argue that hybrid work should be abandoned.

His own business depends on it.

Instead, he believes leaders must work harder to maintain connections once employees are distributed.

During and after the pandemic, he began scheduling regular informal conversations with staff. When travelling, he often arranged coffee meetings or walks with employees who lived nearby.

The objective was not oversight.

It was understanding people.

“It’s more personal and more in-depth conversations I have with individuals outside of that,” he said.

Those interactions often reveal concerns, ambitions and frustrations that would never emerge in a formal meeting.

The further people move from shared workplaces, the more intentional leaders must become about creating those opportunities.

“If you’re going to keep them hybrid, yes, you need to be attentive or you’re going to lose your people, especially your best ones.”

 

The same tension appears in AI

A similar theme runs through Christopher’s views on artificial intelligence.

Much of his current work focuses on helping organisations deploy AI responsibly and securely. He repeatedly argues that companies should rely on clean, contextually relevant data rather than assuming that larger datasets automatically produce better outcomes.

Technology can scale capability.

It cannot remove the need for judgement.

As Christopher puts it, AI should make people “bigger, better, stronger, and faster.”

The same principle applies to hybrid work.

Technology can expand access to talent. It can increase flexibility. It can reduce operational costs.

But it does not eliminate the human relationships on which organisations still depend.

 

An unresolved trade-off

Christopher sees advantages on both sides of the remote work debate.

Distributed teams create access to talent that many organisations could never otherwise reach.

At the same time, visibility, mentorship and advancement remain closely linked to human interaction.

That tension is unlikely to disappear.

Remote work solved geography.

It did not solve the challenge of helping people see, understand and trust one another.

For organisations building the workforce of the future, that may prove to be the harder problem.

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China Is Winning Green Tech. The West Is Misreading Why.

Episode 164 | 15.6.2026

China Is Winning Green Tech. The West Is Misreading Why.

Paul Gladston argues that climate cooperation is failing partly because Western analysis is missing the cultural variable that shapes everything China does.

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The Green Contest Nobody Called a Contest

China is the world’s largest carbon emitter. It is also the world’s largest producer of solar panels, electric vehicles, and battery storage. Those facts are not in contradiction. From a Chinese cultural and political perspective, they are entirely consistent.

The article under discussion, A Green World Order with Chinese Characteristics, makes the structure visible. Climate action has drifted from shared mission into a contest over green technology dominance and global influence. China is not in the green transition as a liberal environmentalist.

It is in it as a long-term strategic actor whose national development goals happen, at this moment, to align with low-carbon technology leadership.

Western climate frameworks have not accounted for that distinction. Paul Gladston argues the reason is cultural, and that the tools to address it are largely absent from commercial and policy analysis.

Pocket Money on Art Books, Then Thirty Years in the Sinosphere

Paul came to Chinese culture through art, and to art through remainder bookshops as a child in Britain.

“I used to spend my pocket money on art books,” he said.

When the University of Nottingham invited him to help establish its campus in Ningbo in 2005, he agreed on one condition: he wanted to pursue research. What was planned as two articles became eleven books. He is now the Judith Nielsen Chair Professor of Contemporary Art at the University of New South Wales Sydney. His work sits at the boundary between Western and Chinese-speaking cultural frameworks. That boundary, he argues, is precisely where climate analysis keeps failing.

 

The Variable the Article Leaves Out

The article is, Paul says, “typical of academic discourse.” Socio-economic and political analysis. Valuable, but incomplete.

“I often think that in order to decode some aspects of that discussion and give a richer view of that, one has to address culture. Leaving it out rather limits the discussion.”

The cultural variable is not soft context. It concerns what international commitment actually means to different parties, what timescales legitimate decision-making operates on, and what the relationship between state, society, and national interest looks like from inside a different tradition.

 

Confucian Pragmatism and the Long Game

China’s climate engagement, Paul argues, is shaped by a specific cultural inheritance. Confucianism was always a pragmatic idealism. It rejected the legalist view that human nature was bad and required punishment, and instead believed in the perfectibility of the individual and of society. Progress required pragmatism, not purity.

Since the 1990s, the Chinese Communist Party has incorporated its own version of that tradition, including appeals to social harmony, as a framework for managing forty years of rapid and disruptive transformation. The result is a governing culture with a long-term orientation and a willingness to pursue steps that look inconsistent with the stated goal, if those steps serve the broader trajectory.

“It’s an acceptance from a Chinese perspective that we might have to do certain things that are at odds with the ultimate outcome that we’re trying to achieve. But we have a long-term view and we’ll do whatever it takes to get there.”

From a Western liberal perspective, that looks like bad faith. From inside the framework, it is rational.

Two Frameworks at the Same Negotiating Table

Western climate frameworks assume shared liberal values: transparency, democratic accountability, and international obligation as binding regardless of domestic politics. Those assumptions are not universal.

Paul is careful here. “We should not simply dress China up as some perfect exemplar of how to develop a green society.”

His point is not that China’s approach is superior. It is that the global climate debate “remains westernised.” The cultural frameworks of other major actors are not adequately represented in how cooperation is designed or evaluated.

 

The Missing Instrument

Paul’s magic wand is a cultural one. More people, in commercial and policy life, capable of sophisticated transcultural interpretation. Not relativism. Rigorous, informed reading of how different societies understand commitment, progress, and long-term action.

“What ought to change is to have more people that can give a sophisticated interpretation of issues that draw on culture, and particularly transcultural issues.”

The green world order is being constructed now. The cultural literacy required to build it on shared rather than assumed foundations is, for the moment, in short supply.

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