Licence to Publish: Why Social Media Needs Guardrails

Episode 82 | 27.3.2025

Licence to Publish: Why Social Media Needs Guardrails

In a recent episode of The Responsible Edge, Charlie sat down with Marissa Rosen, founder of US-based consultancy Climate Social, to explore the changing role of digital communication in sustainable business—and the unsettling blurring of truth and influence across our feeds.

It was a conversation grounded not only in strategy, but in lived experience. Marissa, who has spent over a decade supporting sustainable organisations in their use of digital platforms, offered a unique perspective on how platforms like Meta are shaping (and warping) public discourse, what brands can do to communicate responsibly, and why we might need a ‘licence to publish’ in the future.

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🔍 Social Media’s Crisis of Credibility

In discussing the recent TIME article by Andrew Chow on Meta’s rollback of its fact-checking efforts in the US, Marissa warned of a dangerous tipping point in how information is consumed and shared online.

“We’ve lost that along the way… We’ve never had this sort of freedom of expression or freedom of engagement ever.”

Marissa pointed to the accelerating spread of disinformation, particularly during election cycles, and the marked difference in content moderation between countries. As Chow’s article highlights, Meta has quietly removed its US-based fact-checking programmes while retaining them in other markets—raising serious questions about political influence.

“It looked like the removal of the fact check really was based here in the U.S.,” Marissa explained.

“The fact checkers in Meta in other countries… are still doing their same job.”

 

📜 A Licence to Publish?

Midway through the conversation, Charlie posed a radical idea:

“What if, just like learning to drive a car, you had to pass a kind of certification before you could publish content online? Something that ingrains ethical responsibility, fact-checking, and proper substantiation from the outset?”

Marissa’s response?

“I like that idea. Let’s put a little bit more rigour around having the licence to publish.”

In the age of self-publication, the burden of ethical storytelling has shifted from traditional publishers to anyone with a smartphone. Yet, as Marissa noted, there’s no training, no standards, and no consequences for spreading misinformation. The idea of user-side accountability—rather than relying solely on platform moderation—is one worth exploring further.

 

🤝 The B2B Sustainability Space: Safer, But Not Immune

While much of the disinformation debate centres on consumer-facing platforms, Marissa’s world of B2B sustainable business has its own challenges.

She doesn’t see the same volume of outright misinformation—but she does see greenwashing, and more recently, a new threat: greenhushing.

“There’s the couple of phenomenons that we talk about: greenwashing… and now greenhushing. When companies actually are legit taking great actions… but they’re not talking about it for fear of political backlash.”

The consequence? Lost momentum. Without public-facing stories of sustainability progress, brands risk weakening their own commitments—and slowing the collective learning needed across industries.

 

🪄 A Magic Wand for Responsible Communication

As is tradition on The Responsible Edge, Charlie closed the episode with a magic wand question: if you could change one thing about the commercial world overnight, what would it be?

Marissa’s answer was crystal clear:

“How do we help companies to actually do the opposite of greenhushing and be more vocal to have that impact, to tell their story… through social media and through storytelling in the right way?”

Her solution? Empower internal voices—especially employees and leadership teams—to become brand advocates. That’s where real trust is built.

“Use the voice of those that are closest to them. Those are internal— their employees.”

 

🧠 Final Thought

What made this episode stand out was its blend of practical marketing insight and broader digital ethics. Marissa’s reflections on platform power, corporate responsibility, and communication strategy weren’t just relevant to marketers—they’re relevant to anyone trying to build trust in a post-truth world.

Because when we all have a voice, the question isn’t just how loudly we speak—but whether what we’re saying is worthy of being heard.

 

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From Pride Cocktails to Purpose: Rethinking Hospitality Marketing

Episode 81 | 24.3.2025

From Pride Cocktails to Purpose: Rethinking Hospitality Marketing

On this episode of The Responsible Edge, Charlie is joined by marketing and hospitality professional Kieran Corbitt — a self-confessed advertising obsessive whose passion for brand storytelling started as a child and has evolved into a mission to bring ethics, diversity and meaning into an industry not always known for its progressive roots.

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In a wide-ranging and personal conversation, Kieran reflects on the formative power of advertising, the significance of authentic representation, and how his work at The Alchemist and KG Hospitality shows that purpose-driven marketing is not just relevant for hospitality — it’s urgently needed. But this isn’t another ‘do good, feel good’ piece. It’s a case study in what happens when marketing gets personal, brands listen, and meaningful change follows.

 

🎯 The Central Issue: Marketing’s Missed Opportunity in Hospitality

Hospitality, Kieran argues, has lagged behind other sectors in addressing the social expectations of modern consumers. For too long, he says, the industry rewarded unsustainable cultures of overwork and ignored the power of brand voice to shape broader societal norms.

“Hospitality is notorious for being an industry where ethics don’t historically go hand in hand. Seventy-hour weeks used to be worn as a badge of honour — that needs to change.”

The challenge? Hospitality brands have often underestimated the power of their platforms. Unlike tech or fashion, they haven’t traditionally seen themselves as vehicles for social good. But the influence is there — in community spaces, team cultures, social media feeds, and the everyday choices of diners and drinkers.

 

🌈 Case Study: Turning a Pride Cocktail Into a Year-Round Commitment

One standout example Kieran shares is how a seasonal Pride campaign at The Alchemist became a long-term partnership with the Albert Kennedy Trust — raising more than £80,000 for LGBTQ+ youth.

“It started as just a cocktail for Pride weekend. But it didn’t sit right — it wasn’t giving anything back. So we made it year-round. That small change turned into a real, consistent commitment.”

It’s a powerful illustration of what genuine alignment looks like. Not rainbow logos in June, but embedded action across the calendar.

 

🧠 Key Takeaways: Building Authentic Purpose into Hospitality Marketing

Kieran doesn’t mince words when it comes to how brands should approach purpose:

✅ Be consistent, not convenient

  • Purpose isn’t a seasonal trend. If you’re going to support a cause, back it up year-round.

  • Don’t just celebrate International Women’s Day or Pride Month; ask who’s missing and what comes next.

✅ Know when (and why) to speak

  • Silence can be deafening. But jumping on every issue risks cause-washing.

  • Ask: Do we have a right to be in this conversation? Are we listening to the right voices internally?

✅ Invite accountability

  • Transparency is power. Sharing what you’re not yet doing well can disarm critics and build trust.

  • “Own your mistakes,” Kieran says. “People value brands who say: we got this wrong, and here’s what we’re doing to fix it.”

 

💼 Internal Impact: Culture, Belonging and Retention

It’s not just about customer perception. Kieran highlights the internal impact of ethical marketing, especially in a high-turnover sector like hospitality.

He shares how initiatives like Currency of Kindness — where staff were paid to volunteer for a day — built loyalty and gave team members a sense of purpose beyond their job roles.

“When people feel like they’re heard, when their lived experience shapes brand decisions — that’s where true belonging starts.”

This emphasis on internal alignment speaks to a broader trend: younger employees expect their employers to reflect their values. And they’re not afraid to walk if they don’t.

 

🚩 The Risk of Getting it Wrong

Kieran doesn’t shy away from the complexities. He recalls a moment where a menu item was called out for cultural appropriation — and how the team used it as a learning opportunity.

“We owned it. We listened. And we put in place an educational process for the future. That’s how you grow as a brand.”

The lesson? Mistakes are inevitable. But crisis can be a catalyst — if handled with honesty and humility.

 

🔮 Kieran’s Magic Wand: Rethinking Who Gets a Seat at the Table

If given the power to change one thing about the corporate world?

“I’d eliminate the systemic biases in hiring and leadership. Too many head offices still look and sound the same. We need class, race, gender and orientation diversity — not just in who we hire, but who we promote.”

He makes the case not just as an ethical imperative — but as a strategic one.

 

🎤 Final Word

Kieran’s journey — from a billboard-obsessed child to a boundary-pushing marketing lead — shows just how powerful the right stories, told well, can be.

But more than that, it’s a reminder that brands — especially in sectors like hospitality — can do more than sell. They can represent, challenge, reflect and evolve.

As Kieran puts it:

“We’re connecting with people. So people are investing in us. We have to invest in them.”

 

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Beyond Box-Ticking: How Boards Can Make Sustainability a Business Imperative

Episode 80 | 20.3.2025

Beyond Box-Ticking: How Boards Can Make Sustainability a Business Imperative

On The Responsible Edge podcast, Veronica Heaven, founder of The Heaven Company, issued a direct challenge to corporate leaders: sustainability must be driven from the top, or it will never be more than a box-ticking exercise.

This article focuses on the role of boards in embedding sustainability into corporate governance—moving beyond compliance and rhetoric to real strategic integration.

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🚨 The Boardroom Problem: Sustainability as an Afterthought

Many businesses claim sustainability is a priority, but their governance structures tell a different story. Sustainability officers are often buried three or four levels down the hierarchy, while boards focus on short-term financial performance rather than long-term resilience.

🔹 The Result? Sustainability becomes a marketing exercise rather than a business driver.

Veronica pointed out that:

“Sustainability should not be an item on the board’s agenda—it should shape the agenda.”

If sustainability isn’t integrated into risk assessment, investment decisions, and executive incentives, it simply won’t drive real change.

 

📌 The Three Governance Gaps Undermining Sustainability

Veronica outlined three critical gaps that prevent sustainability from being taken seriously at the board level:

1️⃣ The Knowledge Gap – Boards Lack ESG Expertise

Most board members don’t have deep sustainability knowledge, making it difficult for them to assess climate risks, supply chain vulnerabilities, or ESG regulations.

✅ Fix: Companies must appoint board members with proven ESG expertise or provide targeted training to existing leadership.

2️⃣ The Incentive Gap – Executive Pay Rewards Short-Term Thinking

“What gets measured gets done. If ESG isn’t linked to executive compensation, it’s never going to be a priority.”

Boards often tie executive rewards to financial targets rather than sustainability metrics. As a result, ESG goals get deprioritised when profitability is at risk.

✅ Fix: Companies must link CEO and executive bonuses to tangible sustainability outcomes—carbon reductions, ethical sourcing, and long-term ESG performance.

3️⃣ The Accountability Gap – Sustainability Isn’t a Board Responsibility

Many companies have a Chief Sustainability Officer (CSO), but their influence is limited if they’re not directly reporting to the board.

🔴 Red Flag: If the CSO is presenting to the board once a year, sustainability is not a business priority.

✅ Fix: ESG should be a standing board agenda item, and CSOs must be empowered to challenge leadership decisions.

 

💡 How Boards Can Make Sustainability a Strategic Priority

Veronica outlined three actions for companies that want to move from rhetoric to results:

🔹 Embed ESG into Core Governance Structures – Every major decision should be evaluated through a sustainability lens.
🔹 Prioritise Long-Term Value Creation – Shift from short-term shareholder returns to stakeholder capitalism.
🔹 Enhance Board-Level ESG Oversight – Appoint sustainability committees to ensure accountability at the highest level.

“The companies that will thrive are the ones treating sustainability as a fundamental business driver—not an add-on.”

 

📢 The Business Case for Strong ESG Governance

For any leaders still sceptical, Veronica was clear: sustainability is now a business imperative, not just a moral choice.

🚀 The Competitive Advantage of Strong ESG Leadership:

✅ Investor Confidence: ESG-focused companies attract long-term investors.
✅ Regulatory Compliance: Avoid greenwashing lawsuits and heavy fines.
✅ Talent Retention: Employees increasingly seek purpose-driven organisations.
✅ Risk Mitigation: Climate and social risks are business risks.

“Boards that fail to take ESG seriously today will be scrambling to catch up tomorrow.”

 

🎤 Final Thought: Governance Is the Make-or-Break Factor

Veronica left listeners with a strong message:

“If boards don’t prioritise sustainability, it will never be embedded into the DNA of the business.”

This isn’t about doing less harm—it’s about future-proofing organisations for the decades ahead.

📢 Final Challenge for Business Leaders:

  • Is sustainability actively shaping your board’s strategy?
  • Are executives financially incentivised to deliver ESG results?
  • Does your Chief Sustainability Officer have real influence?

If the answer is “no”—it’s time for a governance reset.

 

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From Formula One to Flooring: Engineering Sustainability at Speed

Episode 79 | 17.3.2025

From Formula One to Flooring: Engineering Sustainability at Speed

Sustainability is often perceived as slow-moving, requiring long-term strategies and systemic change. But what if it could be approached with the same urgency and precision as high-performance engineering?

On The Responsible Edge, Jamie Shaw shares his experience embedding sustainability into industries that thrive on speed—Formula One, automotive manufacturing, and now, luxury flooring. His insights reveal how industries focused on performance and efficiency can accelerate sustainability without compromising their core business objectives.

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🏎 Formula One’s Race Towards Sustainability

Jamie’s career took a defining turn when he joined Honda Racing F1, a sport driven by milliseconds and cutting-edge innovation. While many industries hesitate to embrace sustainability due to concerns over cost and complexity, F1’s relentless pursuit of efficiency provided a unique testing ground.

🚀 Key Sustainability Challenges in F1:

  • Carbon Fibre Waste: Unlike metals, carbon fibre is notoriously difficult to recycle, leading to excessive waste.
  • Energy-Intensive Logistics: The sport’s global calendar requires frequent international transport, increasing emissions.
  • High-speed R&D vs. Sustainability Priorities: Development cycles in F1 are lightning-fast, often leaving little room for long-term environmental considerations.

Rather than seeing these as roadblocks, Jamie recognised that the culture of optimisation in F1 could be leveraged to embed sustainability.

“In Formula One, innovation is non-negotiable. If you apply that same mindset to sustainability, you stop seeing it as a limitation and start seeing it as a way to push performance forward.”

Some of the key innovations he helped implement included:

✅ Carbon Fibre Recycling Trials – exploring methods to repurpose discarded materials.
✅ Waterless Vehicle Cleaning – reducing water use across logistics operations.
✅ Sustainable Branding – shifting team sponsorships towards companies with strong environmental credentials.

 

🔄 Bringing Circularity to Automotive Manufacturing

After F1, Jamie transitioned to Jaguar Land Rover, where the challenge was not speed, but scale. Unlike the bespoke world of motorsport, automotive production is about mass efficiency—meaning sustainability solutions need to work across millions of vehicles.

🌿 Key Circular Economy Strategies at JLR:

  • Closed-loop aluminium recycling – melting down old vehicles to create new ones, reducing raw material demand.
  • Lightweighting initiatives – using composite materials to lower vehicle weight and improve fuel efficiency.
  • Reducing embodied carbon in interiors – incorporating sustainable textiles and recycled plastics.

“Sustainability at scale requires a different kind of engineering—one that considers the full lifecycle of a product, not just its performance on day one.”

This systems-thinking approach laid the groundwork for his next challenge: applying sustainability in an industry where durability and design reign supreme—luxury flooring.

 

🏢 Re-engineering Flooring for a Sustainable Future

Today, Jamie leads sustainability at Karndean Designflooring, a global leader in high-end vinyl flooring. Flooring presents a unique sustainability challenge: it needs to be durable, aesthetically flexible, and cost-effective—often conflicting with recyclability and material transparency.

🏗 Sustainability Challenges in Flooring:

  • Plastics & Chemical Use – PVC-based products must meet high safety and durability standards while minimising environmental impact.
  • End-of-life Waste – Most flooring materials are difficult to recycle due to adhesives and composite layers.
  • Carbon Footprint – Reducing emissions across sourcing, manufacturing, and logistics.

To tackle these issues, Jamie is focused on:

✅ Developing closed-loop recycling schemes – ensuring old flooring products don’t end up in landfill.
✅ Innovating with bio-based materials – exploring alternatives to fossil fuel-derived components.
✅ Enhancing product transparency – giving consumers a clear understanding of material origins and impact.

Unlike industries where sustainability is externally mandated, Jamie is working to shift mindsets internally—making sustainability a proactive business advantage rather than a reactive compliance measure.

“If sustainability isn’t built into product design from the start, you’re always playing catch-up. We’re changing that.”

 

🎯 The Formula for Fast-Track Sustainability

Across F1, automotive, and flooring, Jamie’s approach remains the same:

🏁 Embed sustainability in R&D – don’t treat it as a bolt-on after products are developed.
🏁 Focus on efficiency gains – sustainability should drive business value, not just reduce impact.
🏁 Push for circularity – products should be designed with their end-of-life in mind.

His journey proves that the most competitive industries—those that move the fastest—can also lead the way in sustainability.

“Sustainability isn’t a barrier to performance. In fact, when done right, it drives better results across the board.”

 

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What Would Nature Do? Rethinking Business Strategy

Episode 78 | 12.3.2025

What Would Nature Do? Rethinking Business Strategy

In this episode of The Responsible Edge, host Charlie Martin sits down with Nicky O’Malley, a leader in nature-positive business strategy. With a career spanning conservation, corporate responsibility, and high-impact campaigns, Nicky has a clear message: businesses must move beyond sustainability and towards regeneration.

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Rather than just reducing harm, she argues that companies should actively restore, replenish, and rethink their relationship with nature. But what does that actually look like in practice? This conversation dives into the principles of nature-first business, the power of storytelling, and why the most successful organisations of the future will be those that ask themselves: What would nature do?

 

🌍 Why Sustainability Isn’t Enough—We Need Regeneration

Many businesses now recognise the importance of sustainability, but sustaining the status quo isn’t enough—especially when nature is in decline. Nicky highlights that businesses need to shift their focus from merely mitigating damage to actively contributing to planetary health.

🔹 Moving beyond carbon – While net-zero targets dominate ESG discussions, biodiversity and nature loss are often overlooked.
🔹 Replenishing, not just reducing – Businesses need to restore ecosystems rather than just minimising their footprint.
🔹 Nature as a stakeholder – Just as companies consider shareholders and employees, they must account for nature in decision-making.

“We aren’t going to have businesses and an economy unless we look after the ecosystem within which we operate. Without nature, we don’t exist.”

 

🎶 How a Birds-Only Chart Hit Inspired Millions

One of Nicky’s most impactful projects was “Let Nature Sing”, a campaign she spearheaded at the RSPB. The goal? Get a track made entirely of birdsong into the UK music charts to remind people of the beauty—and fragility—of nature.

📢 Five million people heard birdsong in a single day.
🚆 It played in train stations, cathedrals, and public spaces across the country.
🎶 The track reached #11 in the UK charts—outperforming global pop stars!

“When people heard birdsong on their commute, they stopped and smiled. It sparked an emotional connection—because when people care, they want to protect.”

The success of this campaign wasn’t just about awareness—it was about engaging people emotionally. For businesses, this is a crucial lesson: winning hearts and minds is essential for driving real environmental action.

 

🌱 Three Ways Businesses Can Learn from Nature

If businesses started thinking more like nature, how would they change? Nicky suggests applying three core principles from the natural world:

1️⃣ Systems Thinking: Break Down Silos

Just as ecosystems thrive through interconnection, sustainability should not be siloed within a company. It must be embedded into:

✅ Operations – Sustainable supply chains, circular design
✅ Leadership – Decision-making that considers long-term ecological impact
✅ Culture – Employees empowered to champion environmental goals

“We need to stop thinking of sustainability as a ‘department’ and instead embed it across every function.”

2️⃣ Adaptation Over Perfection: Test, Learn, Iterate

Nature evolves through experimentation—and businesses must do the same.

🔄 Start small – Pilot nature-focused initiatives before scaling them.
📊 Measure impact – Track results and refine strategies.
💡 Stay flexible – Environmental challenges will shift, and so must businesses.

“If we wait for everything to be perfect before we act, we’ll never get started.”

3️⃣ Contribution Over Extraction: Give More Than You Take

Businesses need to stop asking, What can we take? and start asking, What can we give back? 🌍

🌿 Regenerative supply chains – Investing in biodiversity, soil health, and ethical sourcing.
🏡 Community-led projects – Supporting local environmental restoration efforts.
♻️ Product innovation – Designing waste-free, circular products.

“We need to flip the script. How can my business create a positive legacy rather than just extracting resources?”

 

🚀 Breaking Barriers: How Businesses Can Act Now

Many companies struggle not with why they should act, but how. Common roadblocks include:

❌ ESG fatigue – Sustainability feels like a compliance burden.
✅ Solution: Frame nature-first business as an opportunity for innovation, not just a requirement.

❌ Short-termism – Quarterly financial pressures stifle long-term environmental thinking.
✅ Solution: Shift focus from profit maximisation to sustainable wealth creation.

❌ Fear of greenwashing – Companies worry about backlash for imperfect sustainability efforts.
✅ Solution: Be transparent – share progress and challenges. Consumers value honesty.

“Transparency builds trust. No company is perfect, but honesty and action go a long way.”

 

✨ The Magic Wand: A Business Mindset Shift

If Nicky had a magic wand, she’d make every business leader ask nature for advice before making decisions:

✅ Would nature take without giving back? No.
✅ Would nature resist change? No.
✅ Would nature evolve, regenerate, and collaborate? Yes.

“Nature isn’t just something we protect—it’s something we’re part of. The businesses that embrace this will be the ones that thrive.”

 

🌿 Final Thought: Don’t Just Sustain—Regenerate

📌 Test a small nature-first initiative in your business.
📌 Think beyond carbon—embed biodiversity into decision-making.
📌 Share progress openly—authenticity wins consumer trust.

👉 The most successful businesses of the future won’t just reduce harm—they’ll restore, replenish, and rethink their role in the natural world.

 

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What It Really Takes to Build a Sustainability SaaS Business

Episode 77 | 9.3.2025

What It Really Takes to Build a Sustainability SaaS Business

The Responsible Edge podcast, hosted by Charlie Martin, recently featured Julien Lancha, co-founder of Advizzo, a purpose-driven SaaS platform helping water and energy utilities drive efficiency and sustainability through data. From Julien’s corporate tech career to his entrepreneurial pivot, his journey offers hard-won lessons for sustainability startups trying to carve out market space and create lasting impact.

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💡 From Tech Corporates to Purpose-Driven Innovation

Julien’s story is one of progressive realisation — sustainability was not always the primary focus, but it became the driving force behind Advizzo’s creation.

👉 Early career in corporate tech giants like Oracle — focused on product, sales, and process-heavy work.
👉 A pivotal shift came when Julien joined Opower, a pioneering US energy efficiency startup, which opened his eyes to purpose-driven technology.
👉 Inspired, Julien co-founded Advizzo in 2015 — focusing on helping utilities and their customers reduce water and energy consumption using behavioural science and smart data.

“We didn’t just build a platform — we built a whole new segment in water efficiency, where few were focusing back then.”

 

⚡️ The Reality of Building a Sustainable SaaS Startup

Julien was refreshingly candid about the realities of founding a sustainability-focused startup. Far from the glamorous tech unicorn narrative, his story highlights the grit required to survive.

Key Challenges Faced:

💰 Raising money with no product — “We went unpaid for eight months, with no salary, building out of nothing.”
😓 Stress and health impacts — “There was a point where the pressure to meet payroll landed me in the hospital. No entrepreneur talks about that enough.”
⚖️ Balancing product innovation with regulatory navigation — Sustainability isn’t just about having a great product; you need the policy landscape to align too.

“Startups in sustainability often forget — the best product in the world won’t succeed if the regulatory environment isn’t pushing the market in the right direction.”

 

🛠️ Building in a Market That Doesn’t Exist

A recurring theme was the sheer difficulty of creating a market from scratch. Water efficiency wasn’t high on the agenda when Advizzo started, so Julien and his co-founder had to educate, advocate, and sell all at once.

🚧 Barriers they faced:

👉 Lack of awareness in the UK about the importance of behavioural water saving.
👉 Minimal regulatory support compared to energy efficiency, which already had established mandates in the US.
👉 Resistance from utilities that saw behavioural programmes as a ‘nice to have’ rather than essential.

“We were asking utilities to invest in saving water — a resource they are used to billing for. That’s a difficult cultural shift.”

 

⚖️ Regulation: The Underrated Growth Driver

Julien spoke at length about the role of regulation in sustainability success. Advizzo’s growth accelerated when:

👉They hired a regulatory expert to help shape water-saving policy in the UK.
👉They aligned Advizzo’s value proposition directly to emerging regulatory requirements.
👉They understood that policy shifts create whole new revenue streams for startups if you position yourself correctly.

“Regulation creates the conditions for growth — without it, you’re trying to sell innovation to customers who aren’t required to change.”

🚀 Pro Tip: If you’re building a sustainability business, embed regulatory engagement into your business plan from day one.

 

🔍 Learn from Others: Embracing ‘Graveyard Diligence’

A standout takeaway was Julien’s use of ‘graveyard diligence’ — a term coined in a fashion sustainability article, which he wholeheartedly embraced.

💀 What it means: Actively studying why similar startups failed and using that intelligence to shape your own approach.

“We saw US startups drowning in endless pilots — never reaching scale. So we deliberately moved to full-scale projects, even if they started small.”

✅ Key Learnings from Competitor Failures:

  • Avoid over-reliance on short-term pilots.
  • Focus on landing longer-term contracts.
  • Build tech that adapts to evolving regulations.
  • Don’t chase grants that create false markets.

 

🔄 The Emotional & Practical Realities of Exit

Julien was open about the emotional complexity of selling Advizzo after nearly a decade of building the company.

⚙️ Why Sell?

  • A new round of funding (Series B) would require another five years of high-intensity scaling.
  • Joining a larger company (Calisen Group) provided access to sales teams, infrastructure, and complementary products, enabling faster market access.
  • Calisen’s existing focus on smart metering and decarbonisation aligned well with Advizzo’s mission.

🧠 The Transition Experience

“It’s a weird adjustment going from being in control to being part of a larger machine. The stress doesn’t disappear, it just changes shape. The hardest part was letting go — trusting others to understand what made Advizzo successful.”

🚀 Despite the challenges, Julien sees partnership with Calisen as a smart, values-aligned route to scale.

 

✨ Final Reflection: What Needs to Change in Sustainable Business?

When asked the magic wand question, Julien’s answer wasn’t about faster exits or better funding — it was about impact.

“The biggest frustration was knowing we could do so much more — but being limited by short-term corporate thinking and lack of regulatory urgency.”

🔥 Julien’s Wish for the Future:

👉Faster, more ambitious regulation that drives sustainability initiatives forward.
👉Corporate leaders who genuinely understand that long-term value comes from embedding sustainability, not treating it as optional.

“We didn’t just want to make money — we wanted to save water, improve resilience, and leave a positive legacy. That’s what sustainability startups should be aiming for.”

 

🎯 Key Takeaways for Sustainability Founders

✅ Embrace regulatory strategy — don’t just build product, shape the market.
✅ Study why similar startups failed — don’t repeat the same mistakes.
✅ Build for long-term partnerships, not quick wins.
✅ Accept stress as part of the process — but find ways to manage it.
✅ Stay true to your impact mission — but be commercially smart about how you achieve it.

Julien’s journey through the trenches of sustainable entrepreneurship offers a goldmine of practical insight for anyone looking to launch or scale a purpose-driven business. As Julien put it:

“You don’t build a sustainability startup to make millions. You do it to make a difference — but that doesn’t mean you can ignore the business fundamentals.”

 

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